Do you prefer traditional, running or both?
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Do you prefer traditional, running or both?
Hi everyone I hope everyone is well .
I was wondering of the two base ways to cross stitch which of them do you prefer and why, or do you prefer to do both?
Traditional of course is 1 full stitch at a time whilst running is a continuous half stitch for multiple stitches before lapping back to finish each one.
Me personally I used to do a mix but have found myself preferring to doing pure traditional as I feel I get a more even back and better tension overall.
How about you?
I was wondering of the two base ways to cross stitch which of them do you prefer and why, or do you prefer to do both?
Traditional of course is 1 full stitch at a time whilst running is a continuous half stitch for multiple stitches before lapping back to finish each one.
Me personally I used to do a mix but have found myself preferring to doing pure traditional as I feel I get a more even back and better tension overall.
How about you?
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Re: Do you prefer traditional, running or both?
When doing cross-country in large blocks, I use 'Running', as the thread usage can be less. However, I have started charting photographs and making images from them, so I suspect my days of having large blocks of colour are now well & truly over.
When doing 'Parking' I use traditional cross stitching. I am just not very good at parking.
Finally, with my last 2 projects, I have used 25ct and 28 ct, and found that tent stitching, 2 over 1 is quicker than cross stitching, yet gives reasonable coverage.
So.. in answer to the question: 'No. It doesn't apply to my latest projects.'
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When doing 'Parking' I use traditional cross stitching. I am just not very good at parking.
Finally, with my last 2 projects, I have used 25ct and 28 ct, and found that tent stitching, 2 over 1 is quicker than cross stitching, yet gives reasonable coverage.
So.. in answer to the question: 'No. It doesn't apply to my latest projects.'
Regards,
Richard.
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Re: Do you prefer traditional, running or both?
Either, as the fancy takes me
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Re: Do you prefer traditional, running or both?
I also use both. I'll use "running" for colour blocks as it uses less thread, although as you say you have to be careful with the tension, and the "traditional" way for confetti or to move across the fabric to avoid carrying the thread long distances across the back. Whatever seems most sensible at the time, really!
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Re: Do you prefer traditional, running or both?
I've never heard them called "traditional" or "running" methods. That's a new one on me. Danish cross-stitch is what you're calling the "running" method and English cross-stitch is what you're calling the "traditional" method.
I'll use both as I need to depending on where I need to go with the thread. If I need to stitch down the row and come back to drop down to the next row, I'll stitch Danish. If I need to stitch down the row and the next place I need that color is further along, I'll stitch English. I rarely do anything with large areas of a single color; and if I do, I'm probably tenting instead of doing full crosses anyway.
If it matters, English cross-stitch uses a wee bit more thread. I saw a figure of 9 percent more, but I don't know where that number came from.
I'll use both as I need to depending on where I need to go with the thread. If I need to stitch down the row and come back to drop down to the next row, I'll stitch Danish. If I need to stitch down the row and the next place I need that color is further along, I'll stitch English. I rarely do anything with large areas of a single color; and if I do, I'm probably tenting instead of doing full crosses anyway.
If it matters, English cross-stitch uses a wee bit more thread. I saw a figure of 9 percent more, but I don't know where that number came from.
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Re: Do you prefer traditional, running or both?
I'm another as does both, and sometimes I do larger areas of the same colour (but not necessarily blocks) in the bottom half stitch and then go back over it with the next thread I put in my needle, this is faster for me for some reason....
I also go in horizontal and vertical when it suits me as well....I try to do things that have a particular aspect like a door or something that's very vertical in design in vertical stitches, but otherwise it doesn't look any different to me.
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I also go in horizontal and vertical when it suits me as well....I try to do things that have a particular aspect like a door or something that's very vertical in design in vertical stitches, but otherwise it doesn't look any different to me.
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Re: Do you prefer traditional, running or both?
Whichever works best at the time. For projects stitched over 1, I prefer tent stitching so that is not an issue.
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Re: Do you prefer traditional, running or both?
I prefer running. The only time I do traditional is if I'm using a variegated thread where I want the colors to fade in and out properly. The thing is I think I count more accurately using traditional.
My most comfortable and quickest way to stitch is going up with the first cross, left-bottom to right-top, then back down with the final cross. I waste a lot of thread getting into position to stitch this way.
My most comfortable and quickest way to stitch is going up with the first cross, left-bottom to right-top, then back down with the final cross. I waste a lot of thread getting into position to stitch this way.
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Re: Do you prefer traditional, running or both?
If you consider a cross of 1 unit along each side, the 'Danish/Running' stitch will have a Bottom Left- Top Right in front (1.414 units), Top Right- Bottom Right behind (1 unit) to get to the start of the next stitch to the right, then on the return, it'll be Bottom Right to Top left in front (1.414 units) then to get to the next stitch in the row, it'll be Top Left to Bottom Left behind (1 unit), giving 4.828 units.Allyn wrote:...If it matters, English cross-stitch uses a wee bit more thread. I saw a figure of 9 percent more, but I don't know where that number came from.
The 'English/Traditional' will be Bottom Left-Top Right in front (1.414 units), Top Right- Bottom Right behind (1 unit), Bottom Right to Top left in front (1.414 units) then to get to the next stitch in the row, it'll be Top Left to Bottom Right behind (1.414 units), giving 5.242 units, or 8.57% more, which rounds to 9%.
Just for info.
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Re: Do you prefer traditional, running or both?
I use both methods, depending upon the design and my mood. Of course, with overdyed fibers, it's always one complete stitch at a time.
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Re: Do you prefer traditional, running or both?
I am slightly ashamed to admit I have made the same calculation. I have also made it for alternate stitches along a row where it makes slightly less difference. Considering a row of 10 stitches alternating colours, the Danish method uses 26.46 units per colour (5 stitches) and the English 28.09 units, which is only 6% more.richardandtracy wrote:
If you consider a cross of 1 unit along each side, the 'Danish/Running' stitch will have a Bottom Left- Top Right in front (1.414 units), Top Right- Bottom Right behind (1 unit) to get to the start of the next stitch to the right, then on the return, it'll be Bottom Right to Top left in front (1.414 units) then to get to the next stitch in the row, it'll be Top Left to Bottom Left behind (1 unit), giving 4.828 units.
The 'English/Traditional' will be Bottom Left-Top Right in front (1.414 units), Top Right- Bottom Right behind (1 unit), Bottom Right to Top left in front (1.414 units) then to get to the next stitch in the row, it'll be Top Left to Bottom Right behind (1.414 units), giving 5.242 units, or 8.57% more, which rounds to 9%.
Just for info.
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Re: Do you prefer traditional, running or both?
I do both, but prefer running. I do traditional when working with variegated threads or in confetti work.
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Re: Do you prefer traditional, running or both?
You know, as I was typing that, I said to myself, "I'll bet Richard will have an equation/calculation for that," and sure enough.....richardandtracy wrote: ...If you consider a cross of 1 unit along each side, the 'Danish/Running' stitch will have a Bottom Left- Top Right in front (1.414 units), Top Right- Bottom Right behind (1 unit) to get to the start of the next stitch to the right, then on the return, it'll be Bottom Right to Top left in front (1.414 units) then to get to the next stitch in the row, it'll be Top Left to Bottom Left behind (1 unit), giving 4.828 units.
The 'English/Traditional' will be Bottom Left-Top Right in front (1.414 units), Top Right- Bottom Right behind (1 unit), Bottom Right to Top left in front (1.414 units) then to get to the next stitch in the row, it'll be Top Left to Bottom Right behind (1.414 units), giving 5.242 units, or 8.57% more, which rounds to 9%.
I'll end a thread early and throw away a long piece if it gets even a little fuzzy so thread conservation is not in my agenda but I know other folks like to pinch it right to the very last bit. So there ya go. Danish cross stitch uses less thread.
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Re: Do you prefer traditional, running or both?
I know them as traditional and Danish as described here. My last project was a kit so I was very concerned about running out of thread, but in my HAED project thread usage isn't a concern so I don't care which is more efficient and will mercilessly discard thread when it becomes worn from stitching. I like how Danish returns me to where I started, but with the 2 over 1 full cross on 25 count of my current project I need good light and to look carefully to ensure that I don't miss any stitches on the return path. So while in the past I used Danish every chance I got, I new do a lot more traditional with my current WIP.
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Re: Do you prefer traditional, running or both?
I've never heard of the variations referred to as "Danish" and "English" before.
I mostly cross the stitch as I go, even though it does use more thread. I used to do the half stitch and then cross on the way back, but it was so frustrating when you either (1) miscalculated the amount of thread and couldn't cross them all with ought changing, or (2) found the pattern left you stranded. Of course, I use a combination sometimes.... I certainly cross as I go with variegated threads, or when doing long-armed cross stitch (don't think you can do it any other way, to be honest).
I mostly cross the stitch as I go, even though it does use more thread. I used to do the half stitch and then cross on the way back, but it was so frustrating when you either (1) miscalculated the amount of thread and couldn't cross them all with ought changing, or (2) found the pattern left you stranded. Of course, I use a combination sometimes.... I certainly cross as I go with variegated threads, or when doing long-armed cross stitch (don't think you can do it any other way, to be honest).
Re: Do you prefer traditional, running or both?
I stitch danish style unless using veriagated thread, then I stitch english style.
I find danish to be faster, and it uses less thread. I also like how the back looks with danish stiches
I find danish to be faster, and it uses less thread. I also like how the back looks with danish stiches
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Re: Do you prefer traditional, running or both?
Serinde wrote:I've never heard of the variations referred to as "Danish" and "English" before.
Honest, I'm not making it up. Here is a reference. In this discussion, you told us you do the English method.
The earliest mention I found here was in 2007 in Rose's Glossary of Terms in the post dated Apr 17, 2007. (fifth post down in the "cross stitch" paragraph)
There was this discussion on the two methods from April 2013.
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Re: Do you prefer traditional, running or both?
Don't you just hate it when your own words are used in evidence against you...
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Re: Do you prefer traditional, running or both?
fccs wrote:I use both methods, depending upon the design and my mood. Of course, with overdyed fibers, it's always one complete stitch at a time.
I'm the same!
But when you do running with overdyed/variegated floss you can get quite an interesting textured look.
That of course depends on the design as it can ruin the effect. But it does stop the 'blocks of colour' look that you can get using these threads unless the change in colours in the floss is subtle.
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Re: Do you prefer traditional, running or both?
Wendy, I sometimes do that with variegated in order to get that look. It's lovely on occasion.