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Got a few ?'s

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Im just starting cross stitch again after over 10 year break and i was looking at my old projects and there back is really :roll: dont even want to say lol, how do you keep it so neat? can someone post a few pics of how you do it. sorry im more of a visual person.

And how do you not put a knot in the back (need pics too lol)

Oh i just order 22ct fabric what needle do i need to get? i have some for 11 and 14ct but think they might be too big.

Sorry for all the ?'s but i want to get things right from the beginning of my project so i dont have to start over.

Thank you all for your help.
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I'm not very techno savvy but if you look under Tips/Techniques section there are some post that address some of your questions. I cant post pics but as for no knots I hold the end of my thread to the back and when I start the next stitch catch the end into the stitch on the back. Doesn't really make sens huh. Like I said thou try the Tips section. Good Luck! =)
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Here is a great site that shows the basics, with pictures:

http://www.better-cross-stitch-patterns.com/
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Hello and welcome :) Don't worry about asking lots of questions that's what the forums are for

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The back of your work will improve with practice and experience. Mine were absolutely awful when I started but over time they have improved dramatically, thought they're still not as neat as I would like. However, nobody will see the back of your work when its framed etc so I don't worry about it any more

How to start without knotting the thread:

there are a couple of different methods to use. My favourite is the loop method. This only works if you are stitching with 2 strands of thread. Rather than using 2 separate strands, take one strand, fold it in half and thread the two ends through your needle. then when you place your first stitch, make sure you take the needle through the loop of thread. tada no messy ends or knots :D

The other method is as Pampam said. You use this if you are using a blended thread (2 different colours used together), one strand of thread, or if you are using 2 strands of thread and don't want to use the loop method. leave a tail of thread on the back of the fabric when you place your first stitch. Different people leave different lengths. When you do your first few stitches, make sure they lie over the tail of thread, so when you look at it, it looks like when you finish off the thread and the end of the thread is held in place by the stitches.

Some people (and kits) recommend using a waste knot to start off the thread but I'm not sure how to do that, I've never been able to get my head around it so I use one of the above two methods.

With regards to needles, it really depends on what you feel comfortable with. I usually stitch on 14 or 16 count Aida, but I've also stitched on 25 count linen/even weave. I usually use either a size 24, 26, or 28 needle and I find that is fine. the 28 is the smallest needle I use, and I usually only use that for very fine fabrics. I stick to a size 24 or 26 most of the time

There are lots of 'sticky' threads that have lots of tips for things like this if you get stuck

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I have been stitching for over 25 years and the backs of my projects are not what I call lovely. But you know what, I don't care as long as it is not all bulked up and lumpy I am fine with it, it is called the back for a reason. The things I do is work in blocks of colors I pick a color and work it until the thread is finished, that is if I can, some pictures do not allow this because of the color changes....ie my current project of the Pansy Angel. I also will not carry a thread over more then 4 to 5 stitches to get to the next square of the same color. I also will not carry thread over an area that will not have stitches on it.

I use the loop method to start my threads as much as possible. Or I will use the start method that Pampam and Arianwen have discrabed and I know that some people will be offended but if I think it is needed I will knot the end and work it that way.

Most the time I will use a size 26 needle for my projects to me it is the most comfortable. But for anything over 18ct I use a size 28. They bend very easy so I don't care for them all that much. I work on aida and waste canvas so that is my personal choice. If you look in this thread I believe Mabel put up a chart for needle sizes that work best with different fabric sizes http://www.crossstitchforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=476" target="_blank

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Thank you all so much....
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I also use the loop method..and made a tutorial video on how to..since you are visual..u might like to see it..
also..when ending..i carry the thread through about 5 stitches at least and clip it very close to the last stitch i went under so there isn't much stitching out if any at all...
but all in all..i don't much care about the backs..just making sure nothing gets carried through to the front like fuzz from other thread ends..or knots..that sort of thing.

loop method vid I made..better one to come..promise lol
http://good-times.webshots.com/video/30 ... 6639ibojLq" target="_blank

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Thank you so much coffee_freak that helped alot with the video.

i dont really care much for the back i just saw on my old projects they was really lumpy and thought with a nicer back the front will look better too.

Thanks again for the help
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This is harder to explain than I would have thought. Which is why I am really impressed with coffe_freak's video. Boy, I just tried explaining it and confused myself. I am really impressed with how well the rest of you have explained the loop method and the "cover it with a few new stitches" method. :applesauce: I use both, preferring to loop when I can. The only thing I can add about "backs" is that I often will weave a thread underneath completed stitches if I have more than 4 or 5 squares to "jump". If it going to be an empty area and just snip and start over. that's for the afghans where people will see the backs. If I am framing I am not as neat about backs as I could be.

Explaining this is harder work than I would have thought. I've been stitching for about 20 years and have only ever tried to teach one person (my grandaughter) and she doesn't stitch so I must not have done a good job. :oops:

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I'm a "returnee" too, and not as experienced as some of the other stitchers on this forum, but here's what works for me:

I use the loop method, as it halves the number of trailing threads on the back.

Depending on the complexity of the pattern, I try - within reason! - to plan my stitches so that as many as possible result in vertical stitches on the back. I stitch the first leg from bottom left to top right and the second leg from bottom right to top left. This means I finish a full cross stitch on the same side as I started it (the left) and I always come up/down on the same side (i.e. bottom or top depending on whether I'm stitching a row left to right or right to left) - I bear this in mind when planning what order to do the stitches in when they're in irregular blocks.

When finishing off a thread I sometimes weave it vertically through the stitches on the back, so it's less visible.

I never carry long threads across the back.

On the whole I'd say my backs are average - not the messiest I've seen, and certainly not the neatest, but I'm happy with them.

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to be honest my back finished projects are not looking good either, but I honestly don't care as I frame them all and noone will see them :P
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